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Retribution & Royal Bounty
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Author:  Matsu Yasuhiro [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:58 pm ]
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Kitsu Keiji wrote:
If I count right, I think Keiji can command 6 units, plus 2 for each Status 3+ character that is with him.


That was my count,and since your first mate is status 3+ I put you at 8.

Susumu can indeed command more. 10 + 2 for Wataru would make 12.

i'm at 9, 10 if I get +1 from Yajinden.

The bigger question for me at the moment is.

Which ships in the land unit?

Which ships at sea?
Author:  Kannon [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:01 pm ]
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I may tweak capacity rules still. But we are looking at a point per Base capacity, so c. 20+ points of troops to command overall.
Author:  Kannon [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:03 pm ]
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And that is indeed the biggest question.

We can assume it had been planned and communicated/discussed with captains. For the fun of it I let you do the more precise battle planning.
Author:  Gusai Susumu [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:09 pm ]
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I get +4 for Tori and Ran
Author:  Matsu Yasuhiro [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:19 pm ]
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it's probably best if we split up ships

One small ship,two large ships.

If we want a even distribution of people.
Author:  Gusai Susumu [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:21 pm ]
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Kannon wrote:
And that is indeed the biggest question.

We can assume it had been planned and communicated/discussed with captains. For the fun of it I let you do the more precise battle planning.


If it was discussed I would have gotten a unit of signalers. I think Wataru wanted to buy something as well but it might me too late for both
Author:  Matsu Yasuhiro [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:26 pm ]
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I will say the Ashitae is more built for sea combat, with the weapons I have at least. So I should probably stay there. I'll go on land if that is preferred though.
Author:  Miya Edogawa [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:06 pm ]
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I'm not sure where the Yamato should be deployed. Feel free to assign her wherever you guys feel would be best.
Author:  Kannon [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:11 pm ]
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If I were making a call, I'd send Yamato/Stingray/Walrus to land and use Roxas' men and Mamluks for land combat while the Teppodoka and high capacity vessels to face off gun-loaded Thranish vessels. While Susu is probably the most competent commander here, Walrus leading the charge vs. Revenant may be a bit tricky.
Author:  Matsu Yasuhiro [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:16 pm ]
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i'm ok with that if everyone else is.
Author:  Gusai Susumu [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:27 pm ]
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>.>

Well, okay then.
I will tell Keishi the tactic Teodoro has told me then
Author:  Miya Edogawa [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:30 pm ]
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Bear in mind, that was a player guess.
Author:  Kannon [ Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:32 pm ]
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It really can be the other way, or some mash-up. Don't make the final decision before seeing the maths of it.
Author:  Muhaki Zabieru [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:24 am ]
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I vote that we all pray to my Goddess, glass them with our cannons and then feast on their corpses.

Barring that I am for whatever we plan and once we have a more solid plan I'll give a better guess.

Still... praise She Leng.
Author:  Agasha Utsusemi [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:00 am ]
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Muhaki Zabieru wrote:
Still... praise Lady Doji.


FTFY.

;)
Author:  Kannon [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:04 am ]
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Quote:
Walrus
    - 1 unit of Hardened Seamen - Strength 1, Defence 1, +5 to Tactics (Warriors)
    - 1 unit of Roxas' Militia - Strength 1, Defence 2, +3 to Tactics
    - Ship, Shipwrights, Surgeon: +10 Defence
    - Boatswain, Weapons: +4 Strength
    - Supply Train
    - Special: +1 Strength, +1 to Mass Battle Table rolls for PCs under direct command
    - Summary: Strength: 7, Defence: 13, +8 to Tactics Roll
    - After Disembarkation: Strength: 5, Defence: 5, +8 to Tactics Roll
    - Command Capacity Enhancing Personalities: 1 (Susumu)

Stingray
    - 1 unit of Hardened Seamen - Strength 1, Defence 1, +5 to Tactics (Warriors)
    - 1 unit of Roxas' Militia - Strength 1, Defence 2, +3 to Tactics
    - Ship, Shipwrights, Priest: +8 Defence
    - Boatswain, Priest: +3 Strength
    - Supply Train
    - Special: +3 to Mass Battle Table rolls for PCs under direct command
    - Summary: Strength: 5, Defence: 11, +8 to Tactics Roll
    - After Disembarkation: Strength: 3, Defence: 5, +8 to Tactics Roll
    - Command Capacity Enhancing Personalities: 2 (Tori, Ran)

Yamato Maru
    - 1 unit of Hardened Seamen - Strength 1, Defence 1, +2 to Tactics (Warriors)
    - 1 unit of Cannon Fodder - Strength 0, Defence 1
    - 1 unit of Mamluk Musketeers - Strength 3, Defence 2, +4 to Tactics
    - 1 unit of Mamluk Light Field Cannons - Strength 0, Defence 1, +6 to Tactics (Land Only)
    - Ship, Shipwrights, Priest: +12 Defence
    - Boatswain, Priest: +3 Strength
    - Supply Train
    - Summary: Strength: 7, Defence: 17, +6 to Tactics Roll
    - After Disembarkation: Strength: 5, Defence: 6, +12 to Tactics Roll
    - Command Capacity Enhancing Personalities: 3 (Edogawa, Ruqqayah, Murad)

Ashitae Maru
    - 1 unit of Hardened Seamen - Strength 1, Defence 1, +5 to Tactics (Warriors)
    - 1 unit of Hardened Seamen - Strength 1, Defence 1, +5 to Tactics (Warriors)
    - 1 unit of Cannon Fodder - Strength 0, Defence 1
    - 1 unit of Marines Shock Troops - Strength 2, Defence 2
    - Ship, Shipwrights, Priest: +13 Defence
    - Boatswain, Priest, Weapons: +9 Strength (Ship +4, Troops +5)
    - Supply Train
    - Special: +1 Strength, +2 to Tactics
    - Summary: Strength: 14, Defence: 18, +12 to Tactics Roll
    - After Disembarkation: Strength: 10, Defence: 7, +12 to Tactics Roll
    - Command Capacity Enhancing Personalities: 2 (Yasuhiro, Yajinden)

Kunshu Maru
    - 1 unit of Hardened Seamen - Strength 1, Defence 1, +5 to Tactics (Warriors)
    - 1 unit of Hardened Seamen - Strength 1, Defence 1, +5 to Tactics (Warriors)
    - 1 unit of Karingo Ship Cannons - Strength 0, Defence 1, +6 to Tactics
    - 1 unit of Cannon Fodder - Strength 0, Defence 1
    - 1 unit of Teppodoka Marines /w Bayonets - Strength 2, Defence 1, +3 to Tactics
    - Ship, Shipwrights, Surgeon: +18 Defence
    - Boatswain, Gunpowder Weapons: +6 Strength (Ship)
    - Supply Train
    - Special: +4 to Tactics, +2 to Mass Battle Table for PCs under direct command
    - Summary: Strength: 10, Defence: 23, +23 to Tactics Roll
    - After Disembarkation: Strength: 4, Defence: 6, +17 to Tactics Roll
    - Command Capacity Enhancing Personalities: 2 (Keiji, Berena)

Amaterasu's Grace
    - 1 unit of Hardened Seamen - Strength 1, Defence 1, +5 to Tactics (Warriors)
    - 1 unit of La Espina 12-Pounders - Strength 0, Defence 1, +8 to Tactics
    - 1 unit of Cannon Fodder - Strength 0, Defence 1
    - 1 unit of Teppodoka Marines /w Bayonets - Strength 2, Defence 1, +3 to Tactics
    - Ship, Shipwrights, Surgeon: +17 Defence
    - Boatswain, Gunpowder & Traditional Weapons: +12 Strength (+10 Ship, +2 Troops)
    - Supply Train
    - Special: +1 Strength
    - Summary: Strength: 16, Defence: 21, +16 to Tactics Roll
    - After Disembarkation: Strength: 5, Defence: 6, +8 to Tactics Roll
    - Command Capacity Enhancing Personalities: 6 (Jama 3, Suru, Zabieru, Kaiya)


I think we have it. Go do the crunching how you want to break it down. Personalities on other ships add to the Command Capacity of the battle commander of the whole squadron. And yes, Jama gives triple bonus.
Author:  Gusai Susumu [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:46 am ]
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hardened seaman are Seasonned sailors?
Author:  Kannon [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:49 am ]
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These originate from that feature, yes.
Author:  Gusai Susumu [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:52 am ]
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I thought we could only buy one per ship?
Author:  Matsu Yasuhiro [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:58 am ]
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Well with the bonuses from high status personal, I don't see a reason to have more then two commanders.

Unless there is something I'm missing?

Keiji and Susumu seem to be the best at it. Should we divide up ships?
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